From Pine View Farm

A Nation of Christians Is Not a Christian Nation 8




  1. Opie

    December 3, 2007 at 6:29 pm

    I’ve done a lot of talking about this with a lot of people over the years and I’ve found what it really comes down to is that I put my religion ahead of my country, and that’s what really scares people.

  2. Phillybits

    December 3, 2007 at 6:44 pm

    Hypothetical: With that in mind, if suddenly and for whatever reason, the pope declared the US a terrorist organization and incited revolution from Christians within and that it was the responsibility of Christians in the US to act, what would you do?

  3. Opie

    December 3, 2007 at 7:40 pm

    Weigh the Pope’s advice against that of other Christian leaders I also value… read the Bible… pray… and then decide.

  4. Bill

    December 3, 2007 at 7:55 pm

    I grew up a Southern Baptist. What the Pope says (or may say) makes little difference to me. The Pope is the head of the Catholic Church. He is not the leader of all Christians.

  5. Phillybits

    December 4, 2007 at 2:38 pm

    Guess it shows how much I know about religion, huh? My underlying point revolved around a rallying call by your highest and most revered religious leader asking something of you.

    I just don’t get it, I really don’t. I don’t understand faith, I don’t get faith, and for me, it makes no sense whatsoever. I’m not meaning that to trash anyone’s views; to each their own.

    For me, though – man, way over my head. It just makes absolutely no sense to me.

  6. Opie

    December 4, 2007 at 7:21 pm

    Gosh, in my world, “Is the Pope Catholic?” is a sarcastic rhetorical question. (“What do you mean am I going to quit my job if I win the lottery? Is the Pope Catholic?”) I didn’t know there were people who really didn’t know.

  7. Opie

    December 4, 2007 at 7:24 pm

    Oh, and as far as “I don’t understand faith,” if you’re interested, you might try “Can Man Live Without God?” by Ravi Zacharias. It may or may not make things any clearer for you, but it’s a short, easy book, and won’t have wasted too much of your time.

  8. Bill

    December 4, 2007 at 7:46 pm

    Just because someone has faith or holds certain religious beliefs does not mean they have lost the ability to think for themselves or exercise good judgment. Extremists are the ones who cannot think for themselves or exercise good judgment. It could be extreme religious beliefs or it could be extreme beliefs about the environment (the Earth Liberation Front) or extreme beliefs about animal rights (PETA) or any of a myriad of other extreme views.

    If you do not get religion or faith, that is fine. It is not my problem or concern. I do find some of your writings intolerant of others who hold certain beliefs. (That is just my opinion.) Intolerance is not the sole bastion of conservatives or Republicans. Some of the most intolerant people I know are liberals. They believe in free speech as long as they agree with what they say.

    I have no problem with folks who express their views. I only admire those who express and support their ideas without attempting to tear down mine (or those of someone else). If those views cannot be supported on their own merit, they must be lacking. That, however, is just my opinion.