From Pine View Farm

Playing the Triangle 4

Werner Herzog’s Bear wonders whether the sun may be setting on “triangulation.”



  1. George Smith

    June 4, 2015 at 5:52 pm

    He’s just explained why Hillary Clinton can lose the election to a madman and, in so doing, destroy the Democratic Party. I don’t think the odds can be calculated, yet. But she’s already rather obviously triangulating. She’s taken positions that appear slightly to the left but which require no real heavy lifting and, in keeping with that, she offers no details. It’s hard to imagine Hillary Clinton winning a straight up debate with Bernie Sanders. How can he lose? By being seen as old? Sincere? Direct? He’s staked out a legitimate populist candidacy. Maybe it just may have to be a hold-your-nose and vote for the person Chris Hedges called Queen Elizabeth. Until then, though, I still see nothing to recommend her. And I think she’s going to phone it for as long as she can, another description for triangulation. Who is in the middle now, anyway? Does it exist? Is it, once again, the people who don’t pay attention to anything but who magically and automatically show up at the polls in presidential elections? I thought they all voted GOP, anyway.

  2. Frank

    June 4, 2015 at 10:12 pm

    There is only one reason to support Hilary:

    Any Democrat, however noxious, is superior to every Republican.

    (Further discussion starts from that point.)

  3. George Smith

    June 4, 2015 at 11:05 pm

    Noxious is the word. It’s saying something about decline when someone who is merely “noxious” is better than anything from the other side. Start a count now of “she’s not that bad”-types of stories, or anything sifting tiny glints of gold dust in the manure pile of six figure checks, mountains of money, conveniently easy positions, listening tours, the husband’s centrist Chauncey Gardner channeling, all the Third Way types, the belief that a Secretary of State accumulates gravitas and experience rather than being just another rubber stamp for war. It’s tough.

  4. Frank

    June 5, 2015 at 9:00 am

    It is frustrating, but one must vote in the real world.

    If ever anyone doubts that, ask him or her how that vote for Nader in 2000 is working out for him or her.