Bob Cesca interviews Dr. Nancy MacLean, professor of history at Duke University. In the conversation, they do a deep dive into the Koch Brothers’ ideology and, in particular, Charles Koch’s long-term effort to remake the United States into a place where John C. Calhoun would be happy.*
Pop it into your podplayer and listen to it the first time you get a chance. You’ll be [ gl | s ]ad you did.
*That reference will be made clear by the time you are 10 minutes in