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“That Conversation about Race” category archive

The Discovery 0

Thom and Joe Madison discuss Donald Trump’s “discovery” of Juneteenth, the Tulsa riots, and related issues.

Afterthought:

It occurs to me that much of what is commonly referred to as “white fragility” results from white folks’ reluctance/refusal/unwillingness to face up to what their ancestors and fellow white folks and even they themselves have done to the various “others” in our society.

So they pretend it never happened or if it happened didn’t/doesn’t matter or happened so long ago that it doesn’t matter any more, even as it continues to happen every day.

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“Still Standing” 0

Title:  Problematic Monuments.  Image One:  Statue of Conferate general bearing a plaque reading

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Tales of the Trumpling: Snapshots of Trickle-Down Trumpery 0

Trumpled in the heartland.

And, in more news of the Trumpling . . . .

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“Systemic” Explored 0

At Psychology Today Blogs, The Bronfenbrenner Center for Translational Research has posted an article discussing an upcoming paper that explores the elements of racism in American society. The post starts out by pointing out that racism in much more than liking or disliking persons because of the color of their skins. Here’s a bit (emphasis added); follow the link for the rest.

“People often define racism as disliking or mistreating others on the basis of race. That definition is wrong,” said Steven Roberts, a Stanford University psychologist and lead author of the paper, told Stanford News. “Racism is a system of advantage based on race. It is a hierarchy. It is a pandemic. Racism is so deeply embedded within U.S. minds and U.S. society that it is virtually impossible to escape.”

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Consider the Source 0

Will Bunch.

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The Root of the Matter 0

Couple looking up at an apple tree as the man says,

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Tales of the Trumpling: Snapshots of Trickle-Down Trumpery 0

Resurrecting Ronald Reagan’s mythological “welfare queen.”

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Tales of the Trumpling: Snapshots of Trickle-Down Trumpery 0

Trumpled to a double fault.

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Environmental Deception 0

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Facebook Frolics 0

Misdirection frolics.

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Tales of the Trumpling: Snapshots of Trickle-Down Trumpery 0

Signs of the Trumpling.

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“The New South” 0

When I was in grad school for history, I wanted to concentrate on the ante bellum South.

I had several reasons for this, including an interest in the causes of the Civil War; the disconnect between history that happened and the “Virginia Cavalier” mythology I was taught in my all-white Jim Crow elementary school; a Virginia heritage that dates to the 1600s; and an ancestry that includes slaveholders, Confederate officers, and proponents of slavery.

In our first meeting, my faculty advisor, whose interest was “the New South,” asked me why I was interested in a society that was–I can still see him say it–“gone with the wind”

But, as we see every day, it was not gone with the wind.

It has not even gone.

And, ironically, that novel to which said adviser so sarcastically alluded was without question one of the most poisonous and effective works of political and social propaganda ever propagated.

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All Tuckered Out 0

David looks at the exodus of advertisers from Tucker Carlson’s Fox News show and explains how, despite the plaints of the Trumpettes, it has nothing whatsoever to do with the First Amendment of the Constitution.

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Tales of the Trumpling: Snapshots of Trickle-Down Trumpery 0

A guilty-until-proven-innocent Trumpling.

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Misdirection Play, Still Rising Again after All These Years Dept. 0

At Psychology Today Blogs, Claire Jack suggests that many tactics we see in our political you-can-hardly-call-it discourse are “emotional and manipulative tactics” that amount to gaslighting on a societal level. An excerpt, referring to the current reaction to the police murder of George Floyd (emphasis; follow the link for the rest.

Some of these protests have culminated in forcibly removing the statues of Confederate generals and men who built their wealth on the slave trade, and calling for the removal of others. People have been calling for the removal of these monuments for years, in some cases. Retaining these monuments – when they are a daily reminder of the atrocities which were carried out in these men’s names and which are highly offensive to some sectors of society – is a form of gaslighting. It’s a way of communicating to a black person whose ancestors died on the ships coming from Africa or who were forced into slavery, that your experience is less important than mine.

By the way, the last sentence above captures succinctly why those monuments were erected in the first place.

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Karen Karen-like 0

Another Karen comes a kropper.

Furrfu.

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“Those Who Forget Ignore the Past . . . .” 0

In The Roanoke Times, a veteran teacher speaks out about (white) America’s collective decision to stop teaching about America’s dirty linen. Here’s a bit (emphasis added):

Last October, while teaching a unit on race/ethnicity, I asked my class of high school students to compile a list of iconic names from the Civil Rights Movement. To my astonishment, three names were all they could muster: Rosa, Martin, and Malcolm. I was not surprised nor upset; their inability to name a larger number was not their fault. Blame for that can be laid at the feet of countless entities. The most glaring explanation is that we have gradually and consistently eliminated narratives regarding Americans of color from our school curricula.

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“The Talk” 0

At the Inky, Sozi Pedro Tulante describes, first, receiving as a child the talk that children white-like-me never have to receive, and, then,having to give as a parent the talk that parents white-like-me never have to give.

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Tales of the Trumpling: Snapshots of Trickle-Down Trumpery 0

A vehicular Trumpling.

And, in more news of the Trumpling . . . .

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A Trumpled Flag Day 0

Donald Trump at a podium before the White House, which flies a Confederate flag and stands on a pedestal reading

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