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Coming of Age 0

The Talks:  For white Americans, it the birds and the bees.  For black Americans, it's the danger of becoming entangled with cops and courts.

Via Job’s Anger.

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“He Don’t Know His Place” 0

As regards the Supreme Court vacancy, any Southern boy can tell you what’s going on.

Republicans are punishing President Obama for being uppity.

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The Party of Nixon 0

At The Nation, Gary Younge points out that Donald Trump, despite the protestations or the Republican “establishment” (whatever that is) is the heir to half a century of racist Republican tactics since Richard Nixon started the “Southern strategy.” A snippet:

For a generation, the party ha(s) galvanized its base on precisely this kind of message, only more artfully put and more plausibly denied. So when Trump rails against political correctness—which always goes down well on the stump—he’s really just calling for a return to unbridled hate speech. No wonder he comes first in a crowded pack for those Republican voters who want a candidate who “tells it like it is.”

Trump’s rallies are also unburdened by either actual policies or tangible facts. He just says stuff—whatever comes into his head, it seems—and people cheer or laugh, but rarely call him on it. Whether it’s true or consistent really doesn’t matter.

Read it, then read the Rude One’s rude take on Trumpery.

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Don’t Overlook the Obvious 2

Leonard Pitts, Jr., tells of a conversation that took place just a little while ago. Here’s a bit from his article:

President Obama had just spoken before the Illinois General Assembly. Now, he and some old friends, all retired from that body, were being interviewed by the Los Angeles Times. Obama was talking about the legislative gridlock that has marked his terms and how he might have avoided it.

“Maybe I could have done that a little better,” he said.

One of his friends wasn’t having it. “They were afraid of you for a couple of reasons,” said Denny Jacobs. “Number one, you were black.”

Obama parried the suggestion, saying what he always says when asked about race and his presidency. “I have no doubt there are people who voted against me because of race . . . or didn’t approve of my agenda because of race. I also suspect there are a bunch of people who are excited or voted for me because of the notion of the first African-American president. . . . Those things cut both ways,” he said.

Jacobs, who is white, was unpersuaded. “That’s what they were afraid of, Mr. President,” he insisted.

Dan Simpson also has something to see on this matter. A nugget:

At some point let us hope that American people will realize that the McConnells, Trumps, Rubios and Cruzes of this world are willing to risk destroying our system of government to get ahead personally. It is in circumstances such as this, when the functioning of our Supreme Court is on the line, that we can see just how greedy and immoral they are.

Image of Senator McConnell with arms all twisty and finger crossed saying,

Image via Job’s Anger.

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Comment Rescue, Original Intent Dept. 0

Gerald commented on my Original Intent post earlier today and sums up the last seven years:

(Republians) are attempting to treat POTUS Obama’s presidency as 3/5’s (of a presidency).

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“Original Intent” 3

Gravestone:  Antonin Scalia, Constitutional Originalist.  Looking on: Four men in colonial-era attire under an umbrella, plus one black slave 3/5s of the way under the umbrella.

Original intent” is neither a legitimate interpretation of history nor a coherent legal theory. It is a racist primal scream.

More here.

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Beyonce the Fringe 0

Protests against Beyonce are planned at NFL HQ. Apparently, alluding even tangentially to the realities of being black in America is somehow “hate speech.”

A snippet; much more at the link.

That last group will be meeting outside the NFL’s New York headquarters Tuesday to protest.

“Join us as we demonstrate on the block of the NFL Headquarters building,” the unnamed organizer wrote on Eventbrite. “Are you offended as an American that Beyoncé pulled her race-baiting stunt at the Superbowl? Do you agree that it was a slap in the face to law enforcement? Do you agree that the Black Panthers was/is a hate group which should not be glorified? Come and let’s stand together. Let’s tell the NFL we don’t want hate speech & racism at the Superbowl ever again!”

If the first rule of Fight Club is not to talk about Fight club, it’s safe to say that the first rule of White Club is not to talk about White Club, at least insofar as the Genteel Chapter* thereof is concerned. Heaven forbid that the reality of their white privilege be recognized in word; recognizing it in deed suffices adequately, thank you. Words would only spoil the fun.

Oh Lord, givest thou me a break.

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*One qualifier for membership in White Club, the Genteel Chapter, appears to be willful cluelessness.

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“The Day Beyonce Turned Black” 0

Via The Root.

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Still Rising Again after All These Years 0

This seems to have Wingnut World and the New Secesh in the uproar of the day.

After all, it’s not as if white folks have anything to feel guilty about . . . .

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Race to the Super Bowl 0

I gather that some old white men are clutching their pearls while having the vapors over the Super Bowl half-time show, sort of like the lady in the Masterpiece Mystery theme.

They should grow up already.

(Video below the fold in case it autoplays.)

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Gut Out the Vote 0

I’m so old that I can remember when North Carolina was considered the beacon of progress for the “New South.” We have latterly seen since that since 1865 there is not and has never been a “New South,” and there has been damned little progress.

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“The Other” 0

A black man goes undercover in the Trump campaign and reports on what he observed.

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Cowboy Cosplay, It Must Be the Hats Dept. 0

I was living in the Philadelphia area when the MOVE assault took place. Had I happened to look out ny bedroom windows that day, I would have seen the smoke from the fire that eventually wiped out a city block, dispossessing not only MOVE, but also its neighbors.

Instead, while West Philly burned, I sat in my easy chair reading a book while listening to music.

Here’s a nugget from Jone’s piece; follow the link for the full article.

Solomon Jones look back and sees similarities between MOVE and the Bundy Bund, plus one glaring difference:

Incredibly, some of Bundy’s armed followers remained in the federal building on Monday, and they’re being given the opportunity to leave peacefully.

Let me be clear. That wouldn’t happen if they were anything other than white men in cowboy hats.

(snip)

Compare their story with the tale of MOVE, a black naturalist group whose yearslong conflict with law enforcement in Philadelphia ended in fiery tragedy.

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The Foghorn Leghorn Defense 0

It was a joke, son.

Yeah.

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Still Flint-Hearted 0

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The Candidates Debate 0

Elon James White, Imani Ghandi, and Aaron James Freeman comment on the Democratic debate and the superficial discussion of #blacklivesmatter.

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White Like Me 0

Stephen Colbert explores his own white privilege with the help of DeRay McKesson.

Via Raw Story.

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Walking while Black 0

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“A Nation of Immigrants” 0

Leonard Pitts, Jr., speaking of Nikki Haley’s delusional response to the State of the Union address, in which she said, “When you’ve got immigrants who are coming here legally, we’ve never in the history of this country passed any laws or done anything based on race or religion.” Here’s a list from his article:

What about:

The Naturalization Act of 1790, which extended citizenship to “any alien, being a free white person … “?

Or the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, whose title and intent are self-explanatory?

Or the Immigration Act of 1917, which banned immigrants from East Asia and the Pacific?

Or Ozawa v. U.S., the 1922 Supreme Court decision which declared that Japanese immigrants could not be naturalized?

Or U.S. v. Bhagat Singh Thind, the 1923 high court ruling which said people from India – like Haley’s parents – could not become naturalized citizens?

One more time: The history of American immigration laws is a narrative of canonizing racism, and the lies Americans tell themselves does not change that. The willingness of Americans to gainsay their history, though, says much about the human desire capacity for denying reality.

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Still Rising Again after All These Years 0

Steven M asks a question:

“The core population” — is that what white supremacists are calling themselves these days?

Follow the link for context.

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