From Pine View Farm

Endless War category archive

War and Mongers of War 0

Thom wonders just how many wars America has been lied into.

Share

A Picture Is Worth 0

Peace Symbol caught on barbed wire.

Via All Things Amazing, an image site (some images NSFW).

Share

War and Mongers of War 0

Sam argues that no credibility should today be given to those who mongered the Great and Glorious Patriotic War for a Lie in Iraq, regardless of how they in retrospect attempt to legitimatize their lies.

Share

War and Mongers of War 0

It was two decades ago that U. S. started the Great and Patriotic War for a Lie in Iraq. I remember standing outside in the smoking area at work. It was the same spot where we had stood and looked up at empty skies in the days following September 11. Though we were just a few miles east of Philadelphia International Airport under one of the approach routes, there were no planes for days . . . .

I was chatting with my boss (who was, by the way, one of the best bosses I ever had). He was opining that “Iraq will be sorry that we have a Texan for president.”

My response was simply, “Dave, I have a bad feeling out this.”

I take no comfort in my qualms having been justified.

That moment came to mind because of something my old friend Noz wrote yesterday about the run up to the Great and Patriotic War for a Lie in Iraq. Here’s a bit of his post:

Don’t buy the 20 years after the fact spin that the Iraq War only appeared senseless in retrospect. The ridiculousness of the idea was right there in the open from the start. Lots of people tried hard to tell the public how ridiculous it was, and they were mocked and marginalized for it. Meanwhile, the people who mocked and marginalized them mostly kept their influence to this day, without ever paying a real price for the death and destruction they made happen. That’s a big legacy of the Iraq War.

Share

The Blind Eye 0

Jason330 wonders why so many Republicans seem willing to turn a blind eye to Russia’s aggression against Ukraine.

Methinks his musings are worth a notice.

Read more »

Share

All or Nothing at All 0

Der Spiegel takes an in-depth and ominous look at Putin’s latest steps in his attempt to cast himself as the new Peter the Great.

I’m not going to try to summarize of excerpt the piece. Just go read it.

Share

Inside the Bubble 0

A Der Spiegel correspondent who has lived in Moscow for 14 years describes how what he refers to as “my Moscow” has changed since the Putin the Wannabe Great’s invasion of Ukraine.

It is well worth a read.

Share

Opportunity Cost 0

Gabriel Young points to news reports that the two decades the United States spent accomplishing almost nothing in Afghanistan (aside from the capture of Bin Laden) suggests that, as a society and a government, the United States is incapable of rational cost-benefit analysis. Here’s a bit; follow the link for his ideas about what might have been more effective use of those trillions.

Seeing the Afghanistan war in the context of similar quagmires in Korea and Vietnam, it has become clear the US government’s decision-making process regarding war is driven by unrealistic expectations, sunk cost fallacies, and especially misguided values.

(snip)

In addition to the immeasurable human toll, the Associated Press reports that the US spent over 2 trillion dollars on direct costs of the Afghanistan war alone (Knickmeyer, 2021). The AP points out that because the funds for the war were borrowed, the total cost of merely the war itself could easily exceed 6.5 trillion dollars, in addition to 2 trillion more on future care for veterans and 6 trillion on top of that already spent on other aspects of the War on Terror, which will also incur spectacular interest if not paid off. All told, the cost of the Afghanistan war and related efforts could easily add up to between 10 and 20 trillion dollars.

Share

Droning On 0

Title:  Hey kids!  It's Droney--the friendly  drone.  Image:  Little girl says to Droney,

Click to view the original image.

Share

The Past Is Prologue 0

Writing at The Roanoke Times, Nancy Liebrecht discerns a disturbing pattern of hubris and repeated error.

I don’t agree with every point she espouses, but methinks she makes some points worthy of consideration.

Share

Mission Creeps 0

The writer of a letter to the editor of the Las Vegas Sun, one who has experience with military strategy, makes an important point. I do not necessarily agree with every word and sentence, but his main point is quite relevant to dis coarse discourse. A snippet:

To make valid command decisions, there must be a definite mission presented.

(snip)

What was our defined mission in Vietnam? Other than getting Obama bin Laden and his group, what was our defined mission for entering and remaining in Afghanistan?

Share

Wasted Warriors 0

Caption One:  How Long Was the War in Afghanistan.  Image show pictures of a child from birth to death, captioned as follows:  Just before the war began, a child was born.  The child learned to walk and the war went on.  The child went to school and the war went on.  The child became a teenager and the war went on.  The child went to high school and the war went on.  The child became a marine and the war went on.  Just before the war ended, the child was killed by a suicide bomber.  Caption Two:  How long was the war in Afghanistan?  A lifetime.

Afterthought:

Over the last decade until the withdrawal began, the Afghan war probably got more coverage on the NCIS television show than it did on major U. S. television news broadcasts.

Image via Job’s Anger.

Share

And the Moral of the Story Is . . . . 0

Lady Liberty lectures Uncle Sam,

Click for the original image.

Share

The Culpable Criticize the Capable 0

I normally don’t pay much attention of Ross Douthat–he has a long history of rationalizing the irrational–but, as my old boss used to say, “Even a blind pig finds an acorn sometimes.”

Share

All the News that Fits, War and Mongers of War Dept. 0

Sam and his crew marvel at how much noncombatants seem to love themselves some combat (which, natch, they will view from afar).

Share

A Tune for the Times 0

Warning: Mild language.

Share

Lessons Unlearned 0

In the first half of this week’s episode of Le Show, Harry Shearer reads from the August 16 “Lessons Learned” report of the Special Inspector General for Afghan Reconstruction (SIGAR).

It is not pretty, but it needs to be heard.

You can download the Special Inspector General’s reports (PDF) from the SIGAR website.

I would not call this “recommended listening.” Rather, I would call it required listening.

Share

Then and Now 0

Title:  Ironies of Afghanistan.  Frame One, captioned

Click for the original image.

Share

Those Who Ignore History . . . 0

. . . condemn themselves to repeat it, as Frances Coleman points out in a powerful piece.

Read it yourself.

Share

The Republican Alternative Reality 0

Seth reminds us that those who are now complaining about the events in Afghanistan are the same persons who made the war, then lied about its progress for two decades.

Afterthought:

I think blogger Vixen Strangely may be onto something.

It feels like there is an unwillingness to see the evacuation efforts as a success because it means the war wasn’t.

The full post is at the link.

Share