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Balloon Juice digs the rif.
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They want another war. Be afraid. History has proven that there is no lie too great for this bunch.
Dan Froomkin distills the lies (emphasis added):
The Iranians have never done any such thing — and for Bush to say so at a time of great tension between the two countries is bizarre at best.
So why did he say it? Was he actively trying to misrepresent the situation? Was it just a slip of the tongue? Or does he believe it, despite the abundant evidence to the contrary?
It seems unlikely that Bush would choose this particular venue to launch a disinformation campaign: His comment came midway through a softball interview with an obscure U.S.-funded Farsi-language radio station, on the occasion of Persian new year. And the Iranian audience knows best that what he said is untrue. Such a blatant distortion only strengthens the Iranian government’s position that Bush is a liar.
So did Bush just misspeak? The White House certainly suggested that yesterday, with a spokesman insisting that Bush had simply spoken in “shorthand,” combining Iranian threats against Israel with concerns about Iran’s nuclear program.
And yet, as disturbing as the third possibility is — that Bush is operating in an alternate reality — it’s supported by this simple fact: He’s said almost exactly the same thing at least once before.
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There was a lot speculation in Left Blogosphere that Admiral Fallon’s resignation was a prelude to more war from the Bushie War Machine.
(Interestingly enough, many of the same Left Blogospheristas speculated, when the good Admiral was appointed, that his appointment signaled preparations for carrier-based air assaults on Iran, since he was an Admiral of the Navy, rather than a General of the Army. Here is one such speculation.)
Dan Froomkin has a thorough analysis of the situation and the possibilities and reaches the following conclusion on the fourth page of his post today:
It’s still not really beyond Bush and Cheney to order a full-scale preemptive attack on Iran. But the more likely scenario is that there will be an asymmetrical U.S. response to a (possibly trumped up) Iranian provocation. And the most likely scenario is that the U.S. will encourage (or certainly not oppose) an Israeli attack on Iranian nuclear facilities — which in turn would lead the U.S. to come to Israel’s defense should Iran strike back.
I suspect he nailed it. The War Mongers in the Current Federal Administration know that they can’t market another war. So, if they have the opportunity, they will happily resort to trickery.
Because they like war.
(And, I suspect that, since none of them have been personally touched by it, they think it’s more like this than like this. It’s something that happens to other people. Like my son.)
Just as they like torture.
Sing we all together now: “Gulf of Tonkin.”
Here is William Arkin’s take on the situation.
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Where have we heard all this before?
Scott Ritter in the Guardian:
Smith is no unbiased observer. As the spokesperson for the so-called “EU-3” (Great Britain, France and Germany), he serves as the face of a group which has a considerable political investment in maintaining the notion of Iran as a non-compliant player in the diplomatic game that is Iran’s nuclear programme. The EU-3 has been attempting to walk the tight wire between a desire to moderate hardline US policies through placation, and their responsibility under international law to respect the provisions of the non-proliferation treaty. In doing so, the EU-3 has married itself to a policy that centres on Iran’s requirement to suspend unconditionally its uranium enrichment programme, since such a programme could be used in any nuclear weapons program.
(snip)
(In the prelude to the War in Iraq–ed.) Iraq had been placed in the impossible position of having to prove a negative, a doomed process which led to war. I am fearful that the EU-3 is repeating this same process, demanding Iran refute something that doesn’t exist except in the overactive imaginations of diplomats pre-programmed to accept at face value anything negative about Iran, regardless of its veracity. The implications of such a morally and intellectually shallow posture could very well be disastrous.
It moves me to poesy:
Addendum, Just a Few Minutes Later:
Digby has more.
Via Susie.
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On the Media explores two beating drums in the Bushie campaign to monger more war:
First: The Current Federal Administrator’s tour of the Middle East. From the website:
Go to the website or listen here (MP3):
Second: The claims of Iranian speedboats threatening U. S. warships:
The story analyzes the how both the tapes–the one released by the Pentagon and the one released by Iran–were doctored.
Go to the website or listen here (MP3):
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From the Department of Redundancy Department:
If you think your government won’t lie to you, remember the Gulf of Tonkin.
Then, again, Lyndon didn’t lie all that much. Not like the Current Federal Administration, which wouldn’t know a truth if the truth bit it in the tush.
Addendum, 1/11/2008:
From upyernoz, who doesn’t believe in upper case:
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Keith Olbermann’s Cavalcade of Stars: “Grant, Hays, Garfield, Arthur, Cleveland, . . . Bush.”
Addendum, Later That Same Evening:
Afterthought: He left out Harding, who is perhaps the most apt comparison in terms of both competence and integrity.
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Ya know, I don’t think I could stay in a job that required me to lie all the time.
Some of the time, maybe.
But not all the time.
Via Talking Points Memo.
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As I pointed out earlier, the recently released National Intelligence Estimate puts the lie to statements of the Current Federal Administration.
(Actually, I reckon putting the lie to a Bushie statement is pretty much–hmmmm–the default selection. Just look at the record.)
Josh Marshall deconstructs the spin on the NIE:
Dan Froomkin deconstructs the spin over the last five months:
Bush yesterday said he was only briefed about the new estimate last week.
But a close examination of his word choice over the past year suggests that he learned something around August that got him to stop making claims that were apparently no longer supported by American intelligence.
Instead of directly condemning Iranian leaders for pursuing nuclear weapons, he started more vaguely accusing them of seeking the knowledge necessary to make such a weapon.
Even as he did that, however, he and the vice president accelerated their rhetorical efforts to persuade the public that the nuclear threat posed by Iran was grave and urgent. Bush went so far in late August and October as to warn of the potential for a nuclear holocaust.
Indeed, a careful parsing of Bush’s words indicates that, while not saying anything that could later prove to be demonstrably false, Bush left his listeners with what he likely knew was a fundamentally false impression. And he did so in the pursuit of a more muscular and possibly even military approach to a Middle Eastern country.
It’s an oddly familiar pattern of deception.
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The assessment states “with moderate confidence” that “Tehran had not restarted its nuclear weapons program” as of mid-2007, but suggests that Tehran continues to keep that option open.
This belies the continuing fulminations of the Current Federal Administration about the “danger” posed by Iran’s nuclear ambitions.
And from whom does this come?
The Government of the United States of America.
“Belies” is, of course, the only appropriate word.
For almost everything out of the mouths of the Current Federal Administration be lies.
Addendum, 12/4/2007:
NPR analysizes the timelies timelines.
Once again, facts belie the statements of the Current Federal Administrator.
And Dick Polman considers what obstinant things facts can be (emphasis added):
Five years ago, he railed against the “grave and gathering danger” of Saddam Hussein’s WMDs, only to suffer irreperable domestic political damage when it turned out that he had committed American blood and treasure to the overthrow of a dictator who had no WMDs. And now he has been embarrassed again: Just six weeks after he raised the specter of the Iranians wielding a nuclear weapon, and invoked “World War III,” America’s 16 intelligence agencies have concluded in a new National Intelligence Estimate, with “high confidence,” that the Iranians actually halted their nuclear weapons program…
In 2003.
In the words of the Old Sailor, “Thar be (Bushie–natch) lies!”
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Joseph Galloway of McClatchy Newspapers:
(snip analysis–follow the link to read it)
When you add it all up, you have your answer: No one in their right mind would believe that attacking Iran now makes any sense at all.
But that doesn’t mean that Bush and Cheney won’t do it.
There were a lot of reasons why a pre-emptive strike into Iraq based on flimsy and bogus intelligence and far too few troops made no sense, yet they did it anyway, with trademark arrogance and ignorance.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
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Susie hears the tom-toms.
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Kevin Drum (I know there is a wisecrack in there somewhere, but I haven’t found it yet):
Ratcheting down the “war of civilizations” talk isn’t some magic bullet that will suddenly make the Iranian regime feel secure enough to give up their nuclear program. But it’s one step in that direction, and smart foreign policy is all about putting together lots of little steps and pushing on lots of little levers to get what you want. Obviously this isn’t George Bush’s style — or Dick Cheney’s — but they won’t be in office forever. The question is: what are they going to do in the time they have left?
Via (in a quite roundabout way) Mithras.
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Mark Bowden in Sunday’s local rag:
Yet somehow we persist in believing the opposite. Just weeks ago, President Bush famously remarked, “I’ve told people that, if you’re interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing [Iran] from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon.”
The WWIII mention got the most attention, but it was the last part of his comment that was the most startling to me.
(snip)
With U.S. forces occupying Iraq and Afghanistan, and with a nuclear Pakistan on Iran’s southeastern border, the Islamist Republic is surrounded by nuclear-armed adversaries. When I visited Tehran several years ago, even moderate pro-West Iranians who could read a map supported development of their own nuclear deterrent. They scoffed at the idea that they should be prevented from doing so by the United States or anyone else, just as Americans would scoff at the idea that Russia should dictate the terms of our own security.
“What hypocrisy!” one friendly Iranian journalist remarked to me. I suspect the bellicose policies of the Bush administration have done little to dampen this point of view, and have done much to strengthen the hand of the religious radicals in charge.
If ever Theodore Roosevelt’s advice – “Speak softly and carry a big stick” – made sense, it does so today in our dealings with Iran. The outcome we should most desire is for the mullahs to conclude that the cost of building a handful of nukes is too great, and that the advantage in having them is too small. The more Iran feels threatened, the less likely that becomes.
Mr. Bowden misses the point.
The Current Federal Administration is in no way connected with reality.
David Frum thinks it’s all talk and no action. Follow the link to listen to the interview:
But, mark this! anyone who has said, “Oh, well, the Bushies couldn’t possible mean that,” has been proven wrong, over and over again, as the Current Federal Administration has pursued its apparent goals of making the rich, richer; the poor, poorer: and betraying the ideals of the Founders.
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The New York Times learns from its mistakes on Iraq:
With a different White House, we might dismiss this as posturing — or bank on sanity to carry the day, or the warnings of exhausted generals or a defense secretary more rational than his predecessor. Not this crowd.
Four years after his pointless invasion of Iraq, President Bush still confuses bullying with grand strategy. He refuses to do the hard work of diplomacy — or even acknowledge the disastrous costs of his actions. The Republican presidential candidates have apparently decided that the real commander in chief test is to see who can out-trash talk the White House on Iran.
Endless war.
It’s a Republican thing.
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Dan Froomkin (emphasis added):
Stolberg continues: “Mr. Bush has repeatedly said the administration would not ‘tolerate’ a nuclear-armed Iran. But during a news conference on Wednesday, the president went further, saying of Iran: ‘If you’re interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon.'”
Furthermore, Stolberg notes: “That distinction — having the knowledge to make a nuclear weapon, as opposed to actually having a weapon — is one the administration has not made in the past. David Makovsky, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute who moderated a panel discussion before and after Mr. Cheney’s speech, said the vice president also seemed to draw a new red line when, instead of saying it is ‘not acceptable’ for Iran to have a nuclear weapon, he said the world ‘will not allow’ it.
More to the point, the challenge to keep Iran “from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon” is prima facie absurd. The knowledge of how to make a nuclear weapon is in the public domain and has been so for over 50 years. It’s called “nuclear physics.”
But as an instrument for whipping up emotions among the ignorant and the hysterical, what a wonderful phrase!
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Radio Times yesterday:
Go to the website (if the link doesn’t take you to this week, search the archives for October 16, 2007) or listen here (Real Player).
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Deep inside the story about Swampwater, General Pollyanna Speaks:
He asserted that the Iranian ambassador to Iraq, Hassan Kazemi Qomi, was a member of the al-Quds Force of Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guard Corps, the Reuters news agency reported. U.S. commanders have accused al-Quds of funneling roadside bombs and other weapons to Shiite militias in Iraq.
When asked whether the Iranian government was responsible for killing American soldiers, Petraeus told a small group of reporters: “They are responsible for providing the weapons, the training, the funding and in some cases the direction for operations that have indeed killed U.S. soldiers,” according to Reuters.
Phillybits has more.
And the drums beat: More war, more war, more war. Make up a reason, make up a reason, make up a reason.







